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The pinout isn’t covered by the NDA, as that information is already published in schematics that you can download. Sign in Sign in Remember me Forgot username or password? It has 4 problems: I am not a lawyer, and you should read the terms of the NDA very closely. This seems nuts to me. datasgeet

| Gigabit Ethernet PHY without NDA?

We didn’t think it was datasheeh incorporating in development boards, or modules, if our customers couldn’t get the basic information. Can you imagine how hard it would be to design anything if every chip you used had NDAs attached to it?


On 17 Dec, I have found candidates from Marvell, Vitesse, and Broadcom.

Anybody have any experience with it? John Adair Enterpoint Ltd.

axe(4) (Belkin F5D5055) problems

Plus, all the source code is open as well, so who knows what secret registers that might reveal. On Dec 17, 2: For example, I found this schematic containing an 88E in less than a minute of searching: The other problem with these companies is getting smallish numbers of chips is generally expensive and difficult.

I mean, what could possibly be NDA-worthy in the datasheet for a 4 year old part that implements a technology GbE which is nearly a decade old? Introduction to Microcontrollers Mike Silva.

I can only hope these companies stop being so snobbish as they get rapid volume turnoff in the current recession in their favoured et0111c markets. An NDA might be more of a problem for the software; device driver source typically contains information about many of the PHY internal registers.

The schematic merely shows the pinout. Micrel has nothing gigabit on their website. Create free account Forgot password? We have had the same problem and partially why we have not as yet got a phy module at gigabit available.


axe(4) (Belkin F5D) problems

All claim to use about half the power, are much smaller, and don’t need the 1. I don’t see how this clashes with open source hardware though. The fact that other users have been forced to redact pages of schematics tells me that this is a serious problem. Besides, I don’t want to reward such bad behavior by these chip companies. It is cheap, low power, available, and they give out the datasheets without an NDA.

The problem is that all of them require an NDA just to see the datasheet.